I reached that a long time ago, just make objects arrays, like, don't use optGround, optMask, optAnim, optFringe, etc. Use optLayer(0), optLayer(1), optLayer(2), optLayer(3), optLayer(etc). And repeat the process... It takes a while xD

Looks like it's time to start coding efficiently.

I know I'm suppose to be supportive of you William, but having 200+ controls on one form is ridiculas. I know i saw a lot of controls on the form when i looked at it but i didn't know it was 200+.

Well depending on what each control is doing, it shouldn't slow down an average computer these days, so in reality, it's only a mess, not a something that's bad... unless you're like me and hate messes.

lol, cant stand messy projects & code. I sometimes take a whole minute just to come up with the best name for a variable.

My frmMirage is covered with labels, lets count some on it. I got:
Spell Description: 28
Item Description: 16
Trade Menu: 26
Never mind, lets just look at this..
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5484/hmmiw5.png

There are just so many things that I need on frmMirage. Guess I could put a few menus in other forms, but does it really matter.