Mirage Source

Ive noticed that other competitors of MS such as elysium, eclipse etc.
They all now use a Grid System, are any of you familir with this ?
Does Mirage Need a Grid System ? as for when players get placed and leave a map it will be like call takefromgrid call addtogrid for example, same with npcs and pets to the x or y is free.

so is a grid good for mirage or bad ?

Ummm... yes.

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I was about to quote it too xD

well ya in truth they are competitors, since they try to furnish a product of the same kind that is found here but modified in certain aspects (not always modified in good ways), but since mirage is THE original, all others are competitors and wannabes
forgive me i should have started over here first lol.

None of them can compete with MS, so they're not really competitors.

Btw, are you FrozenGod from ES, the mod over there every has come to know and hate?

yes im the frozengod. i stepped down from being a moderator, i didnt like how things were handled over there and the selective judgement showed by j00st towards certain individuals.
as for every coming to know and hating, some people do dislike me, for reasons im unaware of, but generally i was always there to help the newbies
people have varied opinions unfortunally

I've read some of your stuff over there, your general attitude towards people there, and I'd personally had banned you.

Regardless, what do you mean by grid? Where is hows a grid over the map while you're mapping?

Isn't it a grid for scrolling purposes?

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I think you're getting a bit confused as to what Mirage is.

We're not building an engine here. In fact, we haven't modified the downloadable source code in over 3 years.

This source is here for anyone to use and to turn it in to what ever they want.

Other engines use this source to make it accessible to the not-so-tech-savvy, but that's not what we want to do with Mirage.

It's just the basics for people to build off. We can't add any features like new map editors and the such, because not everyone would want it in their games.

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Although there will be a MSE2 out there soon, I just need to spend another 8 hours or so on it.

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Yeah, but who's actually gonna use that? xD

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Nobody.

Like I said to Dave today, why don't you just change MSE2 into the MS Architect thing..?

You guys are such assholes really. Of course people would use MSE2, since it has a lot of improvements. Robin and Perfekt are the two people who acts like shit on the forum, I don't think I've seen a nice post from you guys in years. Only in fox's topics.

Although, the MSE2 as arcitect was however a good idea, but there will be a MSE2 anyway. No matter what you two thinks.

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So? None of the vets here, which are who matter, since they help the community and such, is gonna stop their project to switch to MSE2.

If you're gonna have MSE2, then drop the Architect shit, or keep it and drop MSE2.

I don't really see anyone using either, to be honest. I know a lot of people that use 303 still. I don't like MSE, and I know I won't like MSE2.

I dunno bout Robin, but I enjoy being an a$$hole if it pisses people like you off. We speak our mind, that makes us a$$holes. Not my fault I'm not gonna cower at the all mighty staff of MS. This site has long since been actually about MS, I mean, seriously, check the off topic section, is has the most posts. 90% of us still come here, for that section, and that section alone. Most of us stay, because we like SOME of the people here.

Look William, I'm not going to kiss your a$$ because you own the site. You can say you own MS all you want, all you have to show for it is admin status. Big whoop. In my opinion, MS itself, is owned by the community, those who care about it. Not saying you don't, in the past you've released more tuts than anyone, be them small or large, it doesn't much matter.

Regardless, get off your high horse.

All I'm saying is that rather than having all those optimisations put into the source by someone else, I'd prefer to do them myself.

Makes it a lot easier to learn things rather than having it all done for you.

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Yeah, I feel the same. But I still think there should be a better version out there of mirage cause the current one needs so much done before you can actually begin a game.

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Perfekt, you can be such an annoying prick at times, people new to Miragesource shouldn't use 303 its buggy and just un-organized. I'd tell any new guy to use MSE instead of 303. And before you insult/ say something back to me. Sticks and stones.

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Why would I insult you? Cause you insulted me? How would that prove I'm mature?

I don't like MSE, cause it does the stuff you need to learn, for you. I prefer 303, cause you learn more by fixing the bugs and optimizing the code and such yourself. If people keep adding this kind of stuff to MS, people ain't going to learn anything important, like the people over at ES. Is that what you want Reece? You want a community filled with a bunch of idiot noobs, over people who know what they're doing? If so, go to ES.

Btw, in case you haven't realized Reece, I enjoy being a prick. It's my favorite pastime. Specially here at MS.

Not like there's anything else to do.

MSE doesn't optimise anything >_>

I use it simply because I don't want to organize everything every time I start something new.

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Matt, I agree with you, the people from ES are all fuck heads, but there was no need to put Williams hard work down like that.

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I didn't put it down. I said that almost nobody will use MSE2, all of us who are making games, already have a base. I then suggested he drop MSE2 and turn it into MS Architect.

I didn't put anything down. I just prefer 303 over MSE.

Well thats not exactly true is it.

You are free to use whatever you want to use as a base. However, just because YOU already have a base does not mean that every new person to this forum is going to have a base, in which case, using MSE2 will probably be their best bet.

I myself, like robin, have used MSE for every new project I've started, simply because I find it's more organized. We always bitch about legibility and nesting code, etc, etc... so why would we steer new members away from MSE, which is more organized? I don't understand the logic.

Anyways, point being, you have your base, and that's fine. I have mine as well, with MSE. When MSE2 is released, my new projects will most likely utilize that source. To each his own, and with that said, stop speaking for everyone else in this community.

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It Seemed Like A Good Idea At The Time...

This topic is over a month old. I'm sure any ill will that may have transpired a month again has since been forgiven and forgotten. And If I'm not mistaking, you haven't been around since June? Welcome back. Check the dates on the posts you're catching up on

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