Mirage Source

some of you should recognise what engine this is "based on"
i dont see any changes ...

how i got there?
via PM on eclipse ...

http://www.rpgbuilder2d.com
check this out

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Sorry, 'www.rpgbuilder3d.com' does not exist or is not available.

you could think yourself that i typed it wrong

its 2D not 3d =)

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I'm sure it will be changed quite a bit.

Looks like it's that Blue kid from Eclipse, who came over here and asked us to make Paperdoll for him then cried when we didn't.

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Well hey, that's sort of how Eclipse started

Except with ED1 or 2...I was there when it was born.

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but dont oyu have any (c) here?
isnt that illegal to take something, dont credit the person who made it and claim it as its own?

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Yep...they'll just ignore. What can we do about it?

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No, we don't. The source is Public Domain. The only thing they can't legally claim is the GUI, but then again, there's no copyright on it or anything saying they can't use it in the downloaded documents.

Elysium Diamond 1, 2, and 3 are not public domain...

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I say let that idiot have his fun. We all been at the stage where we want to create something and have others be respectful for it. Some just take the low road and claim others work. If it becomes to be big like Eclipse well then something should be done, but it's most likely just going to die after time.

He's using MS4. I couldn't care less about any version of Elysium. Elysium is the scourge of Mirage Source programming and should be eradicated faster than the dinosaurs.

I was talking about Eclipse, not Scream Engine or whatever.

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1 is, or damn well fucking should be. Unless someone has dared to try and override its license, in which case someone is getting a smacking.

Did you guys know Eclipse lists all like GSD, Consty, Liam.. Pingu as "Helping hand"
And lists Marsh and the real helping hands who added shit to Elysium as original programmers..

sad ...

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I believe it. Back before I was using MS and was at PW (The original, before James snaked it away. ) Marsh was a mapper for my game and he tried to pass my game off as his a few times. Lol.

Well I know Joost as the Elysium rights and told me I could have them too.

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How does Joost have something that essentially belongs to Fox, Sean and Unreal?

Elysium is on its own license and such. I don't know how Konfuze's license worked, though...

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Elysium was Konfuze retitled by Sean. Still doesn't explain how Joost got a hold of the rights.

I know Elysium was made of Konfuze, Konfuze made of MS...

The rights were passed along to Pingu I guess and then after Pingu left he gave them to Joost, who ran Elysium for a while till it died...

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Elysium isn't dead, its just hiding from all you mean people.

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Sean didn't give the rights to Pingu. He just claimed ES as his own.